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beamjockey ([personal profile] beamjockey) wrote2012-01-31 10:49 am

Today's Diphthong Question

Why is "threshold" spelled with one "H" but "withhold" spelled with two?

[identity profile] daisy-knotwise.livejournal.com 2012-01-31 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that it comes from the words that those words came from.

Withhold comes from with and hold. Each word had the "h" before the words were put together.

Thresh hold comes from a place where threshing happened. Hence the h came with the "s" already attached.


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[personal profile] ericcoleman 2012-01-31 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You're looking for logic in the English language?

WHY?

[identity profile] chasophonic.livejournal.com 2012-01-31 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Once the threshold has been reached, you no longer need to withhold "h"s.

[identity profile] kevin kenny (from livejournal.com) 2012-01-31 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
withhold < ME "with" + "hold" -- hold back, hold with (yourself)

threshold < OE "thresc" + "wald" -- cognate to modern "thresh" (but in an older sense of "tread") and "way", but not cognate to "hold"

[identity profile] harvey-rrit.livejournal.com 2012-01-31 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The "thresh hold" of a barn is to keep the grain from getting out easily. This is very much a hands-on term.

To "with hold" is to keep something to yourself and away from someone else.

Withhold is therefore a term used by salaried people, who can afford an extra 'h'.

[identity profile] neowolf2.livejournal.com 2012-02-01 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's like the "H" in "Jesus H Christ".

[identity profile] isherempress.livejournal.com 2012-02-01 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Great comments. You have such amazing friends, Bill. And even though we all know you're mad, we still love you. <3

[identity profile] purpleranger.livejournal.com 2012-02-01 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
There are some things that Man was not meant to know.